Re: Does Chat and File Transfer work when the host is running as a service?

tcaduto wrote:

>
> I beleive I read somewhere that portal won't work in windows 7 if it's
> running as a service, is this true?
>
> I know other remote control solutions are working on windows 7 as a
> service, for example Networksupport Manager
> (http://www.netsupportmanager.com/)
>
> Will Nexus Portal be able to work as a service on windows 7 at some
> point in the future?

Nexus Portal Host & Gateway are working in the newest versions as service in
Win7. If you have any issues with it then please let us know the details so we
can fix it.

tcaduto wrote:

>
> I ran it as a service, but it was unable to send CTRL ALT DEL on windows
> 7 it was also unable to hide the wall paper.
>
> The service was running as the local system account, does it need to run
> as a special user or something to enable all functionality?

I'll look what is the issue there. It might a security issue with both of them.

tcaduto;97142 Wrote:
> Does Chat and File Transfer work when the host is running as a service?
> I believe I read somewhere that it does not. At some point I will need
> this ability. It is possible to display forms to the user from a
> service, not easy, but can be done.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tony

It does seem to work on Windows 7 because of the way it spawns a copy of
itself as a app in order to access the desktop of the user, but what
about on XP, will this still work?


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tcaduto

tcaduto wrote:

>
> tcaduto;97142 Wrote:
> > Does Chat and File Transfer work when the host is running as a service?
> > I believe I read somewhere that it does not. At some point I will need
> > this ability. It is possible to display forms to the user from a
> > service, not easy, but can be done.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Tony
>
> It does seem to work on Windows 7 because of the way it spawns a copy of
> itself as a app in order to access the desktop of the user, but what
> about on XP, will this still work?

Tony, I've scheduled time from Monday onwards to go over the Win7 issues that
you reported and check them out. I'll make sure that they get addressed asap.
Sorry that I wasn't able to answer earlier.

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"tcaduto" schrieb:
>
> tcaduto;97142 Wrote:
>> Does Chat and File Transfer work when the host is running as a service?
>> I believe I read somewhere that it does not. At some point I will need
>> this ability. It is possible to display forms to the user from a
>> service, not easy, but can be done.

File Transfer as well as File Explorer work normally as a Windows Service,
since they do not require Forms on the Host side. There is nothing special
you have to do for this.

Chat obviously would not work if the Host is running as a pure Service
without desktop interaction and no Forms (at least, the user will not see
anything), but since a Host Service on Vista and Windows 7 are nothing more
than Host process launchers used to start Host processes by impersonating
the logged in user, nothing speaks against using Forms on the Host when it
is running this way. In other words, you could have a normal windowed Host
version even when you have the Host "launcher" installed as a Service, in
which case you would also have the Chat functionality from the Service
version of the Host.

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tcaduto wrote:

>
> I ran it as a service, but it was unable to send CTRL ALT DEL on windows
> 7 it was also unable to hide the wall paper.
> The service was running as the local system account, does it need to run
> as a special user or something to enable all functionality?

Sending CTRL-ALT-DEL on Vista+ turns out to be a real problem. MS changed this
sequence to be a so called Secure Attention Sequence (SAS). The SAS in turn is
now protected by several access policies. There are ways around it and we're
in talks with someone who can potentially provide us with a solution to the
issue. In the meantime we will go the way that various VNC versions are going.
If you run on a system lower than Vista, the old method (which is working)
will be applied.

If you're runnning on vista or higher:
If you're running the host as application sending CTRL-ATL-DEL will open the
task manager. If you running as service we will try to call the UVNC CAD.EXE
(http://sc.uvnc.com/cad.exe). There are some caveats on this which we will
detail on release of the next build. Sorry, for the restriction, but MS find
this requirements needed for his so called secure windows version.

You can though use the virtual on screen keyboard (OSK) to trigger a
CTRL-ALT-DEL when on the login screen. Just make sure to swtich it back off
before you actually log in, otherwise the OSK gets added to the startup
programs for the user.

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