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Old 14th October 2015, 09:21 AM
Sue King
 
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Default Re: Insider - how to use it effectively

Per Larsen wrote:

> Sue King wrote:
>
> > Hi Per,
> >
> > I'm working my way through the different components of the Suite.
> > As I'm new to all this, I don't understand the significance of all
> > the information. I've watched the recording of the Lachlan's Sydney
> > presentation, but unfortunately your answers to questions did not
> > get recorded.
> >
> > When I select viewing Optimization Candidates, which columns are
> > important in determining what could be optimized ? I understand
> > cyclometric complexity is important, but I don't know which other
> > columns give information that might suggest work needs to be done,
> > and what sort of values would cause concern.
> >
> > Some of the columns I am curious about are Dup Calls, Dependencies,
> > Tail Calls.
> >
> > TIA,
> >
> > Sue

>
> Sue,
>
> Some of these view definitions are a bit dated.
>
> "Optimization Candidates" is currently defined as showing the
> methods/functions/procedures where
>
> - there are loops present, and also one of
>
> - word overrides are present (those used to be slow but not so much on
> recent CPUs)
> - legacy instructions are present ('loop', BCD instructions, et al)
> - there are more than 32 direct references (sub-routine call sites)
> - there are more than 16 indirect references (virtual method call
> sites) - there are value copies (i.e. non-const parameters of non
> trivial size) - there are indirect variable references (i.e. all
> references to a particular variable immediately follow a pointer
> within what the first variable points to (slow))
> - there are more than 4 inside stack references (i.e. locals that did
> not fit in available registers)
> - there are more than 4 outside stack references (i.e. parameters that
> did not fit in available registers)
> - there are more than 50 dependencies (i.e. more than 50 case of read
> or write contention a.k.a. back-to-back instructions that read to or
> write from the same register(s), which can cause stalls).
>
> Like cyclomatic complexity, many of these metrics have to do with
> general code complexity. The more complex a routine is, the less
> efficient it tends to be (not to mention harder to understand for
> humans, typically).
>
> "Dup calls" is a rough measure of how much code appears to do roughly
> the same work. This can sometimes be optimized by lifting the common
> logic into a separate helper routine.
>
> Tail calls are Call instructions immediately followed by a Ret
> instructions - those can be pulled together in a Jmp instruction but
> only if you are coding at the asm level, of course. I am not even sure
> this optimization is such a great idea anymore with the call/return
> history that CPUs maintain nowadays.
>
> Note generally that there's a popup hint on every column in the view
> header that attempts to give a brief description.
>
> IHTH
>
> Per



I'm finding the tools interesting, and have some comments about them,
but they will have to wait until after I come back from holidays.

Thanks for the detailed explanations. The hints sometimes take a while
to show, and some columns seem to be missing them. I look for them now
though, and they are helpful.

Regards

Sue